tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36235418.post117311195451658441..comments2022-11-14T06:40:41.662-08:00Comments on Tractatus Blogico-Philosophicus: DRhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08332954000692559637noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36235418.post-82670346661277883082010-04-06T07:15:43.227-07:002010-04-06T07:15:43.227-07:00This seems closely related to the later remarks on...This seems closely related to the later remarks on private language. But if an 'inner object' is named then the 'object' ceases to be part of the language-game. It is a mistake, in other words, to think of the grammar of expressing feelings and sensations on the model of naming objects. Tractarian objects are colourless, simple. There is nothing that could be said about them. They can only be tagged, labeled, or named, never described or expressed.DRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08332954000692559637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36235418.post-27428913798856668002010-04-05T11:49:56.151-07:002010-04-05T11:49:56.151-07:00My version says "Objects can only be named. S...My version says "Objects can only be <i>named</i>. Signs are their representatives. I can only speak <i>about</i> them: I cannot <i>put them into words</i>. Propositions can only say <i>how</i> things are, not <i>what</i> they are.<br /><br />This might clear up "express" vs. say. And it seems he is saying that objects, since words can only refer to them and not be them, can't actually be said but only be referred to by way of signs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36235418.post-35847683042315325152009-03-01T16:48:00.000-08:002009-03-01T16:48:00.000-08:00Perhaps, signs themselves are a product of human s...Perhaps, signs themselves are a product of human subjectivity. Such that what it is has no meaning unless it be within the realm of subjectivity. <BR/><BR/>but the fact that signs and language could become a social artifact tells us something about the extent of ambiguity our subjectivity can agree to, or maybe the power of persuasion signs and language can carry, as vessels of agreement, of contract...<BR/><BR/>from this perspective then, making and "interpreting" signs are acts of negotiation, battle for some, allegiance for another.§haronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04750328381595888221noreply@blogger.com